Counter that threat!!

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  • #361
I only mentioned speed being passed. Kingdra still has to set foucs energy up itself. That ev spread lets it survive a surprising number of attacks while still packing just enough punch to get kos.
 
  • #362
I only mentioned speed being passed. Kingdra still has to set foucs energy up itself. That ev spread lets it survive a surprising number of attacks while still packing just enough punch to get kos.
tbh, I doubt that 252 hp/100 spe/52 def/52 spa/52 spd does better than 252 SpA/252 Spe/6SpDef
 
  • #363
It works for me, your spread works for you. Let's move on.
Blissey @ leftovers
Bold
Cute charm(?)
252 hp / 252 def / 4 spd
Toxic
Substitute
Soft boiled
Counter

Should outlast syl enough to let toxic kill it. If counter doesn't work with sub on the field, replace substitute with protect.
 
  • #364
It works for me, your spread works for you. Let's move on.
Blissey @ leftovers
Bold
Cute charm(?)
252 hp / 252 def / 4 spd
Toxic
Substitute
Soft boiled
Counter

Should outlast syl enough to let toxic kill it. If counter doesn't work with sub on the field, replace substitute with protect.
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Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Bulk Up
- Ice Punch
- Knock Off
 
  • #365
Mega charizard y
Modest
Drought
252 spa / 252 spe / 4 spd
Fire blast
Solar beam
Air slash
Roost
 
  • #366
Mega charizard y
Modest
Drought
252 spa / 252 spe / 4 spd
Fire blast
Solar beam
Air slash<- There is abosulute no point in using Air Slash in Zard Y, Fire Blast/Solar Beam/Focus Blast gives you all the coverage you need, and in almost no scenario, Air Slash is going to do more than those I mentioned
Roost

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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Protect
- Stealth Rock
 
  • #367
Air slash is going to hit a lot more often than focus blast. Plus gives coverage against fighting types, which usually carry rock slide or stone edge. I think solar beam covers rock types.
Gliscor @ toxic orb
Impish
Poisen heal
252 atk / 212 hp / 44 spe
Earthquake
Protect
Acrobatics
Fling
 
  • #368
Air slash is going to hit a lot more often than focus blast. Plus gives coverage against fighting types, which usually carry rock slide or stone edge. I think solar beam covers rock types.
Air Slash hits NOTHING that Fire Blast, Solar Beam or Focus Blast doesn0t already hit. If you use Air Slash instead, Zard Y gets walled bu stuff that shouldn't be walling it. And if you don't believ me, believe the top 2 best Pokémon player in Smogon OU

Gliscor @ toxic orb
Impish
Poisen heal
252 atk / 212 hp / 44 spe
Earthquake
Protect
Acrobatics
Fling

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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 164 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Taunt
 
  • #369
Eelectross @ assault vest
Modest
Levitate
252 hp / 252 spa / 4 spe
Thunderbolt
Giga drain
Flamethrower
Volt switch

Even if sturdy did work, skarmory still needs 5 hits to win. Eelectross needs only 1 or 2.
 
  • #370
Eelectross @ assault vest
Modest
Levitate
252 hp / 252 spa / 4 spe
Thunderbolt
Giga drain
Flamethrower
Volt switch

Even if sturdy did work, skarmory still needs 5 hits to win. Eelectross needs only 1 or 2.

Latios @ Life Orb
252 Spe 252 Spa 4 SpDef
Draco Meteor
Psyshock
Surf
Roost
 
  • #371
Bisharp @ life orb
Jolly
Defiant
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 spd
Iron head
Sucker punch
Psycho cut
Swords dance
 
  • #372
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Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 108 SpD / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Foul Play
- Roost
- Taunt
- Defog
 
  • #373
Mega gardevoir
Timid
pixilate
252 spa / 252 spe / 4 def
Hyper voice
Psyshock
Energy ball
Calm mind
 
  • #374
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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn
- Healing Wish
 
  • #375
Scizor @ life orb
Adamant
Technition
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 def
Bug bite
Knock off
Bullet punch
Swords dance
 
  • #376
Scizor @ life orb
Adamant
Technition
252 atk / 252 spe / 4 def
Bug bite
Knock off
Bullet punch
Swords dance

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Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 92 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Fire Blast
 
  • #377
Lapras @ leftovers
Modest
Water absorb
252 spa / 208 hp / 44 spe / 4 def
Scald
Freeze dry
Psychic
Protect

Think your garchomp gif is glitched. The first frame doesn't go away.
 
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  • #378
Lapras @ leftovers
Modest
Water absorb
252 spa / 208 hp / 44 spe / 4 def
Scald
Freeze dry
Psychic
Protect

Think your garchomp gif is glitched. The first frame doesn't go away.
This Lapras is walled by... Lapras...
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Lapras @ Assault Vest
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 60 HP / 252 Def / 196 SpA
Quiet Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Shard
- Sheer Cold / Thunderbolt/ T-bolt (not even considered)​
 
  • #379
This Lapras is walled by... Lapras...
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Lapras @ Assault Vest
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 60 HP / 252 Def / 196 SpA
Quiet Nature
- Freeze-Dry
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Shard
- Sheer Cold / Thunderbolt/ T-bolt (not even considered)​

Freeze Dry is super effective... also, Thunderbolt and T-Bolt are the same thing
 
  • #380
Lol, it was after 2 am and I was bored out of my mind... Forgive that small faux pas, also those calcs were done using Freeze-Dry.
 
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